Holocaust Denial

No Planes and No Gas Chambers:
Holocaust Deniers pushed hoaxes that sabotaged 9/11 Truth

The official story is essentially correct, although the full scale of the crimes is generally not understood, even in the United States (far removed from the events). The basic facts of the Holocaust are also not generally taught in the Arab world (few peoples anywhere learn accurate information about distant genocides).The issues of the State of Israel's behavior toward Arab populations are a separate issue than the Holocaust.
Downplaying or denying the Holocaust is a great way to ensure that Israel will not want peace with the Palestinians and other neighboring peoples.
Downplaying or denying massacres and injustices on the Arab / Palestinian side since 1948 also makes peace unlikely.

No known limited hang outs.

Most popular descriptions of the Holocaust ignore complicity of the United States and Britain. Churchill and Roosevelt were provided with extremely accurate information about the mass shootings and the extermination camps but chose not to use their propaganda services to warn potential victims to resist or inform civilian populations in Germany about the full extent of Hitler's crimes and threaten post-war prosecution of the perpetrators. Toward the end of the war, a small effort was made to interfere with the conclusion of the "Final Solution," which saved perhaps a quarter million Jews. To its credit, the US Holocaust museum in Washington, DC admits these facts in its displays.
The "lessons of the Holocaust" are to watch for the rise of fascism and similar nastiness, and to work to prevent this emergence while it is still possible to stop it (not once the violence is at full strength).
Few Holocaust books or movies adequately describe the level of resistance in the Ghettos, Jewish partisans in the forests, and even some of the death camps -- revolts under the most extreme conditions imaginable.
The Nazis also killed millions of Poles, communists, Russian civilians and prisoners of war, so-called Gypsies (Roma), political dissidents, Catholics, Jehovah's Witnesses, male homosexuals, psychiatric patients and the infirm, among others. The Nazi war machine killed tens of millions, total, in their quest to take over the world.
Some Nazis were exempted from prosecution through secret deals with the Allies. Operation Paperclip smuggled thousands of Nazi criminals into the US to help with the space program and the CIA, others were helped to relocate to South America, where some destablized local governments and helped institute fascism (Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay).

Some advocates for Holocaust Denial admit that the genocide happened, but claim that it probably was exaggerated in its scope - a subtle, sneaky form of denial. Perhaps some people find it hard to believe how severe these crimes were, but others with this view are merely trying to plant a seed of doubt among those who would not believe claims that it never happened.
While the precise number of Jews and non-Jews killed by the Nazis will never be known, the estimates of the number of Jewish victims only vary by a few percent, and not worth arguing about - credible statistics range between 5 and 6 million Jews killed.
We will never determine the precise numbers of victims of the bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, the Soviet gulag, Tibetan monks murdered by the Chinese, Vietnamese killed by the Americans, Armenian victims of the Turks, Timorese killed by the Indonesians, Guatemalans killed by their military, Cambodians killed by the Khmer Rouge, Rwandan genocide victims, casualties of the ongoing Congo war (millions of dead from war, disease and starvation), student protesters in Tiananmen Square, to cite a few massacres that are well documented without exact casualty lists.

There are many efforts to expose the lies of Holocaust Denial, two of the best websites are

These are excellent analyses that refute the internet era effort to revive Holocaust Denial, which is falsely marketed as "Historical Revisionism" but is really thinly disguised efforts to rehabilitate the image of Nazism.
Considering the large amount of nonsense on 9/11 complicity (no planes, etc) that some Holocaust Denial efforts have also promoted, it is possible that some Denial groups are false-flag operations from intelligence services to discredit examination of deep politics. Hopefully, some of their leaders are covert agents and don't actually believe their own lies.

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Israel is a country, Judiaism is a religion.

Israel's genocide of the Palestinians is NOT an excuse for tolerating Holocaust Denial.

The Holocaust is not an excuse for Israeli occupation of Palestine. Gaza has been returned to the Palestinians, but it is under siege by Israeli military forces and has no future without a viable economy, water supplies, and reparations for decades of damage. [note: in late 2008 the Israeli military escalated the low intensity war into a full scale invasion]

Holocaust Deniers do not belong in efforts to expose the 9/11: American Reichstag Fire, not because they are promoting racist nonsense, but also because the Deniers are promoting fake claims of complicity that discredit independent investigations.

holocaust denial is not a neutral topic of historical inquiry, it's a lure cast by Nazi apologists for vulnerably open minds, which exploits their fresh sense of distrust of history by suggesting that this, too, must be a lie.
-- Jeff Wells, Rigorous Intuition

"I have to say, I do not consider these people [Holocaust deniers] normal. We have to stick to the truth. There are people denying it, but what happened, happened, and it is not up for dispute."
-- SS veteran Oswald Kaduk
, who served at Auschwitz

Those who deny Auschwitz would be ready to remake it.
-- Primo Levi,
survivor of a year's imprisonment in Auschwitz

If the Party could reach into the past and say of this or that event "it never happened" surely that was more terrifying than mere torture and death.
-- George Orwell, 1984

"The real purpose of Holocaust revisionism is to make National Socialism an acceptable political alternative again."
-- Harold Covington, leader of the National Socialist White Peoples Party

Although an exact figure will never be known, approximately 1,500,000 people were murdered by the Einsatzgruppen. The Einsatzgruppen submitted detailed and specific reports of their actions to their superiors both by radio and written communication; these reports were checked against each other for accuracy at Heydrich's headquarters. According to those reports approximately 1,500,000 people were murdered. In evaluating this large number Justice Michael Musmanno, who presided at the trial of the Einsatzgruppen wrote:

One million human corpses is a concept too bizarre and too fantastical for normal mental comprehension. As suggested before, the mention of one million deaths produces no shock at all commensurate with its enormity because to the average brain one million is more a symbol than a quantitative measure. However, if one reads through the reports of the Einsatzgruppen and observes the small numbers getting larger, climbing into ten thousand, tens of thousands, a hundred thousand and beyond, then one can at last believe that this actually happened -- the cold-blooded, premeditated killing of one million human beings.


There are some who would try to deny or justify the murders committed by the Einsatzgruppen. The most benign explanation for this denial was given by Justice Michael Musmanno -- an experienced judge and hardened combat veteran -- who presided at the trial of the Einsatzgruppen. Shocked and sickened by the evidence which he heard, Justice Musmanno wrote:

One reads and reads these accounts of which here we can give only a few excerpts and yet there remains the instinct to disbelieve, to question, to doubt. There is less of a mental barrier in accepting the weirdest stories of supernatural phenomena, as for instance, water running up hill and trees with roots reaching toward the sky, than in taking at face value these narratives which go beyond the frontiers of human cruelty and savagery. Only the fact that the reports from which we have quoted came from the pens of men within the accused organizations can the human mind be assured that all this actually happened. The reports and the statements of the defendants themselves verify what otherwise would be dismissed as the product of a disordered imagination.
Judgement of the Tribunal, p. 50.

An Introduction to the Einsatzgruppen
an essay by Yale F. Edeiken

At 20 May, 2006 09:26, Alex said...
What gets me is the sheer...arrogance and horror behind these "revisionists". They cloak themselves in the mantle of "legitimate research" by saying they're not "denying the holocaust" but rather trying to prove that ONLY 2 million died. That's like claiming that Jeffrey Dahmer didn't kill 16 people, but instead ONLY had 7 victims. Frankly, even if you were right, what kind of demented individual would actually WANT to prove that?
In the case of Dahmer, it'd have to be either a close family member who still cares about him despite his crimes, or someone who really, REALLY hated his victims. In the case of holocaust deniers, it's quite clear what their agenda is. They can attempt to masquerade it as "legitimate research" all they want, but the way they present their "facts" always destroys any legitemacy behind that claim. There's only two reasons why they'd spend so much effort attempting to revise the historicaly accepted number of Jews (and other minorities) massacred during the holocaust. Either they're neo-nazis trying to clean up the image that they present to the world, or they're anti-semitic assholes who simply hate Jews. There's really no other alternative.

the Ku Klux Klan offers their solidarity to the Holocaust Denial movement

updated on 2008-03-17

The 9/11 truth movement has suffered from some infiltration by advocates of what is euphemistically called Holocaust revisionism, who have written in defense of various aspects of Holocaust Denial and have praised neo-Nazis who seek to downplay the Holocaust.

The 9/11 truth movement has attracted a lot of people who want to be instant experts. Some crave public recognition. Others, no doubt, have their unique psychological reasons, some good, some not so good. But those who make very bold conclusions while being ignorant of most of the available evidence run the risk of "foot in mouth" disease, and worse, their antics can rub off on the rest of us, especially if they seek to connect neo-Nazi pseudo historians and 9/11 truth activists in common cause.

Due to these (and other) efforts to link 9/11 skeptics with Holocaust denial, there are a fair number of citizens who think that 9/11 investigation is really all about blaming "the Jews" for the atrocity, both from those who want to blame the "jews" and those who think that 9/11 investigation is anti-semitism.

Not all "conspiracy theories" are true - some are blatant revisions of history to snare the gullible or those who let their anger get in the way of the facts.

The 9/11 truth movement should not be co-opted by those who want to pretend that one of the greatest crimes in history was oversold by Jews in order to justify a land grab in Palestine.

It would not be surprising if many of the voices most loudly advocating Holocaust Denial were "false flag" operatives of the Israeli government - since the fact that some crazy people promote these lies makes it more difficult to find political space to criticize Israeli human rights abuses (even though the two issues are quite separate). In other words, the spectre of Holocaust Denial is used to discredit legitimate criticism of Israeli crimes -- who benefits is always a useful question to ask.

It is possible that some well-meaning people have been lured into believing Holocaust Denial due to a lack of critical thinking abilities and the fact that much of the best historical material from murdered victims, survivors, bystanders and perpetrators is not on the internet (a failure of only doing research on the web!) and the neo-Nazi liars are aggresive in their advocacy. Fortunately, there is a large amount of material documenting the reality of the Holocaust and refuting the Deniers.

Holocaust Denial Versus 9/11 Truth

Holocaust Denial and the next 9/11 Conference?

a conference on "9/11 Accountability" planned in Arizona in February 2007 turned out to be organized by a Holocaust denier. Naturally, the media and prominent debunkers have highlighted this situation. The roots of the problem are not this particular event (which is a mix of some good speakers and a lot of absurd nonsense) but the much larger tolerance of Holocaust deniers as credible sources in 9/11 "truth" publications, movies, and even the Deception Dollars.

International Jewish Anti-Zionist Network IJAN


Points of Unity

While we all come from diverse organizing and activist experiences, and have diverse relationships to our Jewish histories and identities, we share the following points of unity:

* Solidarity with the struggle for Palestinian self-determination, including full political, economic, cultural, social and land rights for all those living in the historic Palestine, and the right of return for its refugees;
* Rejection of the Israeli apartheid state, premised on Jewish supremacy and Zionist ideology, and support for all struggles for legal and economic equality against it;
* Support for the building of just societies in historic Palestine, the larger region, and the other places in which we live;
* A commitment to the values of democratic self-determination, social justice and solidarity, gender equality and cultural rights, and to assert the same values in our own organizing and political practice;
* Commitment to the call from Palestine for Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions against Israel;
* Challenging the current use of Islamophobia as a strategy for defending and justifying an imperialist US-European agenda;
* Challenging white racism, including its manifestations as Ashkenazi racism against Mizrahi Jews;
* Challenging the privileging of Jewish voices in conversations and negotiations about Palestine;
* Rejection of the ways in which the Zionist movement and Western governments exploit the Nazi holocaust to justify the historic and current actions of the State of Israel; and
* Rejection of alliances with anti-Jewish racists, white supremacist and Nazi holocaust deniers in our Palestinian solidarity work.


comments posted in response to a person trying to "bait" the list with implicit support for Denial

It doesn't take much investigation to see the issue is owned by fascists, racists and Nazi apologists using disingenuous methods to lure the curious, naive and open minded to their extremes.

The real difficulty lies in exercising both your reason and your intuition in order to assess contrary notions, and then in assimilating the new insight into an expanding, rigorously flexible worldview.
Here are two quick examples. ... The other example is this Holocaust Denier Syndrome. The vast majority of us cling resolutely to either the official story or we abandon all reason and march over to the Nazi camp because something bothers us about the well-known narrative. Why is it so difficult to perceive that the official story in this case has been used by both "sides" to their own ends? Is the collaboration between American & German Nazis to kill off Eastern European Jewry and enslave the rest of us somehow easier to stomach than Norman Finkelstein's description of the Holocaust Industry, which, contrary to widespread belief, does not deny the central truth of that event?
Just because you're opening your frontal lobes to new invasive paradigms doesn't mean you need to surrender your ability to make distinctions.

Frankly, I don't know why you await the "dollars and cents reasoning," as it is staring you right in the face.
The Nazis murdered millions of Jews, as well as Christians, leftists, Communists, Freemasons, Gypsies, homosexuals, etc. etc. etc.
All of these people had . . . wait for it . . . property! Yes, that's right, property. Land, companies, stocks, bonds, jewelry, money, houses, factories, shops, buildings, jobs, etc.
Before the Nazis murdered the Jews, they passed a bunch of . . . wait for it . . . laws! What did the laws do? Why, like Jim Crow laws, they systematically disenfranchised Jews. The laws economically and socially alienated the Jews from Nazi-controlled German society. This made it easier to murder them.
What happened to the Jews during WWII has often been referred to as . . . wait for it . . . liquidation. Where have we heard that term before? Finance? Business. That's right.
The Jews were "liquidated" and the Germans got the Jews' stuff. Their houses, their businesses, their jobs, their property, etc.
See, the Jews have always been a "model minority." The problem? They're too good at the game. The game of capitalism, or life, that is.
Prior to the Nazi ascension, the Jews held a high percentage of positions in law, medicine, and academia. Why did they hold these positions? Could it have anything to do with the fact that Judaism tolerates doctrinal and intellectual dissent, even over sacred texts, and that most Jews had to be fluent in several languages, including one that you have to read backward, Hebrew? Would this be because such cultural traits automatically make one more competitive for positions that require intellectual faculties?
I'll let you decide.
Anyway, after the disenfranchising laws, they lost these positions. It was a big incentive for intelligent, upwardly mobile, gentile Germans to join the Nazis; they would get to take over those positions earlier, and in greater numbers. Likewise, the gentile businesses saw "opportunities" in that they would get to take over Jewish-controlled business.
These were the carrots that the Nazis dangled for the German people. The promise of upward mobility. Plus, if you're a typical gentile, you've been raised to view the Jews as weak, untermenschen. The fact that they succeed in certain areas, at your expense, since its a capitalistic system of winners and losers, is intolerable, since you should win since you've been raised to believe that you're so great.
So, you are right. It wasn't just about hate. There were huge financial incentives as well to appeal to the grasping nature of ordinary people.
Now, as for the proverbial, "whole truth" about the Holocaust; sure, it was a complicated event. It wasn't black and white. There were Nazis who were ethnically Jewish. There were tens of thousands of German Jews who were given the opportunity to Aryanize into the Germany army because they were deemed politically trustworthy. There was Jewish collaboration via the Judenrat in exterminating Jews, some of it done knowingly to save a select few's hides, and some done unknowingly. And then you have all of the standard fraud and distortion that comes with an event involving millions of people. But none of this changes the fact that the Holocaust was about liquidation and "purification." That's why, if you're a European Jew, and you go back to Europe to see where your grandparents or greatgrandparents used to live, you'll find that there are other people, non-Jews, living in their houses. Just like how the Native Americans look and see non-Native Americans living on the land of their ancestors. We keep them tucked out of sight too. Out of sight, out of mind.
All of this information is readily obtained from reviewing the source material.

The deniers are not engaged in a physical destruction. They are engaged in an attempt to pervert the world's memory of how a state almost succeeded in destroying an entire people, along with many others. Currently they are trying to taint the world’s memory of those who were entrapped in this horror. If they succeed at that they will then seek to eradicate any memory of them. This is a "double dying." One hopes to prevent that second dying. It is too late to do anything about the first.
Deborah Lipstadt, Denying the Holocaust: The Growing Assault on Truth and Memory (Free Press, 1993) www.holocaustdenialontrial.org/nsindex.html


A Brief History of Holocaust Denial
Ben S. Austin



Deceit & Misrepresentation: The Techniques of Holocaust Denial


www.spectacle.org/695/mcvay.html An Interview With Ken McVay (Nizkor)


Holocaust History

the best service one can render to those who perished and those who survived, many scarred for life, is to ensure that the facts continue to be published, so that the truth may be preserved.
The Operation Reinhard Extermination Camps
by Gord McFee, last modified August 1, 2005


AUSCHWITZ: Technique and Operation of the Gas Chambers ©
A systematic study of the delousing and homicidal gas chambers of Bunkers 1 and 2 and of Krematorien I, II, III, IV and V of the former KL Auschwitz Birkenau, and an investigation of the remaining traces of criminal activity.
by Jean-Claude Pressac



by Beate and Serge KLARSFELD
A scientific rebuttal of those who deny the gas chambers

"Those propagandists who seek to rehabilitate Nazism are perfectly aware that what marks it indelibly is the infamous genocide of the Jewish people. They take advantage of the credibility of the public and the more or less unconscious desire of the latter that this nightmarish mass murder had never taken place. That is why the Neo Nazis have during recent years launched an offensive which has had a certain success. Their principal themes are the following: that Hitler was not responsible for the "final solution," that the gas chambers as a means of exterminating the Jews never existed, that the number of Jewish victims has been very considerably exaggerated.
"This propaganda is internationally coordinated, and the most virulent of these Neo Nazi publications appear in the major languages."


Holocaust Denial: Truth or Hoax?
One Survivor's Testimony
by William Samelson, Ph.D.
Visiting Professor, Trinity University

The Holocaust is an irrefutable fact. As a survivor of several labor and concentration camps, and as one whose entire family, save my elder brother, was murdered by Nazi thugs, I sincerely wish it had not occurred. It is also irrefutable that I am still here - a reminder of those barbaric acts perpetrated not so long ago on the European Jews by an ostensibly civilized German nation. Law-abiding, ordinary citizens of the Third Reich turned fanatical, implementing their beloved Führer's agenda of murder and destruction. They became killers for him and we became the survivors of his madness. We were not expected to remain alive and give testimony to their crimes against humanity. Alas, it can not be denied that I survived this disaster: the most horrendous calamity of the twentieth century. I am here, alive. I represent the tragic truth. It is my belief that I was spared for this purpose. It is now my moral responsibility to bear witness for as long as I shall live, for I am the truth and will not be silenced by lies. To deny the truth, the awful facts of the Holocaust, is simply to lie.

The evidence, of course, is overwhelming. The countless photographs (most of them taken by Nazi SS and military personnel), testimonies of survivors, and Allied liberators as well as from Nazi documentation media and their war-time propaganda films all prove that this mass Judeocide took place. Yet, there are a number of people that claim it was all nothing more than a hoax. These deniers call themselves "revisionist historians." Their express purpose is to alter documented historical fact. In the process, they turn scholarship into mockery, transforming truth into a make-believe fantasy spawned from unmitigated cynicism. They use the resulting misinformation to spread their anti-Jewish beliefs to the general public. Moreover, their theories, derived from blatant fabrication of data, misquotations, and quotations used out of context, are presented under the deceptive mask of scholarship and are made available to the world by way of the Internet, radio, and television. Although only relatively few fringe groups, propagandists, and pseudo-scholars embrace Holocaust denial, their activity is increasing and the potential for their influence to grow is evident. Therefore, it is incumbent upon all Holocaust survivors, historians, and those sincere chroniclers of the Holocaust to inform the world of the truth before the peoples around the world potentially fall prey, over time, to collective amnesia and adopt a romantic mythical view of the past events.

In Mein Kampf (My Struggle), Adolf Hitler expressed his belief that "the great masses of people...more easily fall victim to a big lie than to a little one" (p. 231); and that the simplest ideas "should be repeated thousands of times" so people will remember them (p. 185). Essentially, Holocaust denial is one big, bold, lie. In an attempt to legitimize the Nazi regime, revive National Socialism, forward their theory of a Jewish-Zionist conspiracy and, evidently, justify their virulent anti-Judaism, deniers repeat this lie over and over. They hide their aims under such legitimate-sounding organizations as the "Institute for Historical Review" and the "Committee for Open Debate on the Holocaust." Some deniers have the audacity call themselves "scholars" or "historians." Whichever way they chose to identify themselves, their intentions have nothing to do with the preservation of history but with its distortion. ....

if Holocaust denial is so absurd, why should we bother to research its aims? I believe that in order to separate fact from fiction, it is important to learn about the fiction as well as the facts. As a survivor of the Holocaust, I have experienced the factual consequences of that tragic event at great losses to myself and my family. When I confront the deniers' fictional interpretations of the Holocaust, I can distinguish between them accordingly. Needless to say, there is a large segment of the general public that does not have this advantage. This population will inevitably grow with ignorance, ingrained prejudice or plain naiveté. There will always exist people who will be susceptible to the propaganda generated by the deniers of the Holocaust. ....

Historian Michael Sturmer asserts that "in a land without history, the future is controlled by those who determine the content of memory, who coin concepts and interpret the past." Such an assertion is especially applicable to the Holocaust. As we, the survivors, become scarce, there will be fewer sources of primary information about the Holocaust in the world. Furthermore, the essence of truth vested with the authority of the eyewitness, will no longer prevail. They will no longer be able to impress future generations with the horrors of Nazi genocide. It is hard to conceive whether or not the Holocaust denial movement could further its influence. However, it is up to the vigilance of authentic historians and serious scholars to prevent its spread by educating the general public on how to separate fact from fiction and valid historical interpretation from the "revisionist" propaganda. We hope that future generations of discerning individuals will realize that the deniers' diatribes are used not only to discredit the Holocaust victims, but also to tarnish the veracity of eyewitness accounts.



There are, in fact, people (among whom Rudolf does not number) who deny the Final Solution out of mental illness. Intense emotional issues have an attraction to some people who are a bit on the edge. They could have latched onto any issue and picked the Final Solution by chance. We have nothing but compassion for such people, but that does not mean they deserve to have their viewpoint taken seriously. One must earn the right to be taken seriously. One must demonstrate seriousness in the way that one treats evidence and the context of that evidence.

www.holocaust-history.org/revisionism-isnt/ the euphemism of "revisionism" is really Denial


einsatz gruppen archives

The "Einsatz Gruppen" were "Special Action Groups" that accompanied the German military when it invaded the Soviet Union in June 1941. These Nazi death squads killed over a million Jews and other perceived enemies of Hitler. Most of this mass murder was done through mass shooting at pits near various cities. The Einsatzgruppen also experimented with "mobile gas vans" -- special trucks where the exhaust systems were funneled into a sealed cargo area to kill dozens of people at a time. This technological shift was implemented to spare the perpetrators from the psychological trauma of having to watch each victim die (some of the shooters suffered shock from the blatant crimes they perpetrated in shooting entire populations). The experiments with the gas vans were short lived and led to the construction of the death camps of "Aktion Reinhard" - Treblinka, Sobibor and Belzec, in which perhaps 1.7 million Jews were killed in 1942 and 1943. Those three camps used engine exhausts to fuel their gas chambers. The much better known Auschwitz camp, which was a combination labor camp and death camp, used cyanide gas in its gas chambers to kill over a million people, mostly Jews.

www.einsatzgruppenarchives.com/denial/biglie.html Holocaust Denial & The Big Lie

Our best defence against this highly offensive "electronic highway litter of hatred" is not to pursue legal redress against the perpetrators, but to focus our resources on ensuring that the facts are as readily accessible as the myths the deniers would have their audience believe.


Julius Bauer, Paul Blobel's driver, described the unloading of a gas van.

The use of the gas vans was the most horrible thing I have ever seen. I saw people being led into the gas vans and the doors closed. Then the van drove off. I had to drive Blobel to the place where the gas van was unloaded. The back doors of the van were opened, and the bodies that had not fallen out when the doors were opened were unloaded by Jews who were still alive. The bodies were covered with vomit and excrement. It was a terrible sight. Blobel looked, then looked away, and we drove off. On such occasions Blobel always drank schnapps, sometimes even in the car.

Kogon, Eugen, Hermann Langbein and Adalbert Ruckerl, ed. Nazi Mass Murder: A Documentary History of the Use of Poison Gas. New Haven: Yale University Press. 1993. p. 61


An Introduction to the Einsatzgruppen

There Is No Way to Rationalize and Justify These Crimes

There are some who would try to deny or justify the murders committed by the Einsatzgruppen. The most benign explanation for this denial was given by Justice Michael Musmanno -- an experienced judge and hardened combat veteran -- who presided at the trial of the Einsatzgruppen. Shocked and sickened by the evidence which he heard, Justice Musmanno wrote:

One reads and reads these accounts of which here we can give only a few excerpts and yet there remains the instinct to disbelieve, to question, to doubt. There is less of a mental barrier in accepting the weirdest stories of supernatural phenomena, as for instance, water running up hill and trees with roots reaching toward the sky, than in taking at face value these narratives which go beyond the frontiers of human cruelty and savagery. Only the fact that the reports from which we have quoted came from the pens of men within the accused organizations can the human mind be assured that all this actually happened. The reports and the statements of the defendants themselves verify what otherwise would be dismissed as the product of a disordered imagination.
Judgement of the Tribunal, p. 50.


How To Be A Revisionist Scholar

www.kimel.net/sublime.html - subtle forms of Denial (whitewashing the Jewishness of the Holocaust - while millions of non-Jews were killed by the Nazis and their allies, the Jews were the primary targets)


www.ushmm.org United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
website of national museum in Washington, DC - the permanent exhibit courageously mentions how the US government did very little to slow down the Holocaust, and also shows an IBM punch card tabulator (a prototype computer) of the type used by the Nazis to track down Jews


a different kind of Holocaust denial

from the Progressive Review, February 21, 2006

Sam Smith

THE jailing of Holocaust denier David Irving in Austria is a reminder of how easy it is to imitate evil even as one excoriates it. The law that convicted Irving is of the sort the Nazis would have invoked, albeit for far different purposes, and was a routine offense in Orwell's 1984. Many fail to see this irony because they are engaged in the greatest Holocaust denial of all: a refusal to look seriously at why there was a Holocaust in the first place. To blame it all on anti-Semitism is as dangerously ahistorical as to deny its existence. Yes, Jews were the victims, but why did an ancient and widespread prejudice produce such an extreme result in this case?

We avoid this question because it takes us places we don't want to go. Like the role of modern bureaucracy and technology in the magnification of evil. Like the commingling of corporate and state interests in a way the world had never seen before. Like the failure of Germany's liberal elite to stand effectively against wrong eerily echoed today in the failure of America's liberal elite to do likewise.

Some of the most important lessons of the Holocaust are simply missed. Among these, as Richard Rubenstein has pointed out, is that it could only have been carried out by “an advanced political community with a highly trained, tightly disciplined police and civil service bureaucracy.”

In The Cunning of History, Rubenstein also finds uncomfortable parallels between the Nazis and their opponents. For example, a Hungarian Jewish emissary meets with Lord Moyne, the British High Commissioner in Egypt in 1944 and suggests that the Nazis might be willing to save one million Hungarian Jews in return for military supplies. Lord Moyne’s reply: “What shall I do with those million Jews? Where shall I put them?” Writes Rubenstein: "The British government was by no means adverse to the ‘final solution’ as long as the Germans did most of the work. " For both countries, it had become a bureaucratic problem, one that Rubenstein suggests we understand “as the expression of some of the most profound tendencies of Western civilization in the 20th century.”

How many school children are taught that, worldwide, wars in the past century killed over 100 million people? In World War I alone, the death toll was around ten million. Much of this, including the Holocaust, was driven by a culture of modernity that so changed the power of institutions over the individual that the latter would become what Erich Fromm called homo mechanicus, “attracted to all that is mechanical and inclined against all that is alive.” Becoming, in fact, a part of the machinery -- willing to kill or to die just to keep it running.

Thus, with Auschwitz–like efficiency, over 6,000 people perished every day during World War I for 1,500 days. Rubenstein recounts that on the first day of the Battle of the Somme, the British lost 60,000 men and half of the officers assigned to them. But the bureaucratic internal logic of the war did not falter at all; over the next six months, more than a million British, French and German soldiers would lose their lives. The total British advance: six miles. No one in that war was a person anymore. The seeds of the Holocaust can thus be found in the trenches of World War I. Individuals had became no better than the bullets that killed them, just part of the expendable arsenal of the state. But we don't talk about this do we? We don't teach our children about it, do we?

The problem with using the outcome rather than the origins of the Holocaust as our metaphor and our message is that we are totally unprepared for those practices, laws, and arguments that can produce similar outcomes. We study the death chambers when we should be learning about the birth places.


David Irving

David Irving is a pseudo-historian who has been promoting Holocaust Denial for decades. www.holocaust-history.org/pamphlets/irving/pamphlet.shtml www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/i/irving-david/ and www.holocaustdenialontrial.org have excellent backgrounds on this racist's history.

In 2002, he extended an invitation to Michael Ruppert to speak at one of his events, but without identifying what he is most known for (Holocaust Denial). Before Ruppert found out who Mr. Irving really is, and before Ruppert had committed to appearing, Irving had already printed up thousands of leaflets promoting Ruppert's appearance at his neo-Nazi event -- a connection that some then used to try to smear Ruppert as a right-wing racist. The smear campaign claimed that Ruppert should have automatically known who Irving was, although the fact that he refused the invitation when he realized who Irving is should be suffiicient to establish Mike's bona fides - it is a dirty trick to discredit serious investigations into this scandal. (The webmaster of oilempire.us, who is very familiar with the gory details of the Holocaust and is disgusted by Holocaust Denial, was not familiar with Irving's identity on 9/11 -- and was horrified to learn shortly after 9/11 that some neo-Nazis were trying to hijack efforts to unearth what actually happened on 9/11.)

Irving's fpp.co.uk website has had some accurate material on 9/11 complicity since shortly after the attacks, but has also offered claims that are difficult, if not impossible to prove. For example, Irving offered the tantalizing information that Condi Rice had been the source who warned then San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown not to fly on 9/11 (a warning that Brown admitted to the San Francisco Chronicle immediately after the attacks -- but he has never stated who warned him not to fly to New York that day). The claim that Condi was the source is tempting to believe (she had been on the faculty at Stanford and on the board of San Francisco based Chevron and presumably knew Brown), but Irving did not offer any evidence. Like other flavors of disinformation surrounding this scandal, Irving has offered some real pieces of information as bait to gain credibility for his nasty misinterpretations of history.


David Irving: a study in incompetency and dishonesty
by Eugene Holman


www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/2711holocaust.html - Holocaust on Trial, a PBS documentary about David Irving's libel lawsuit, PBS Airdate: October 31, 2000



February 21, 2006
Backlash at jailing of historian who denied Holocaust
From Roger Boyes in Vienna

DAVID IRVING, the far-right British historian, sat stunned and open-mouthed yesterday when an Austrian court found him guilty of denying the Holocaust and sentenced him to three years in jail.
“I’m very shocked and I’m going to appeal,” Irving, 67, said as he was bundled out of the Vienna courtroom by armed anti-riot police.
From the public gallery a British supporter shouted “Stay strong, David”, before he too was led away.
But in Britain there was dismay at a verdict that could turn Irving into a right-wing martyr.
Irving had pleaded guilty to denying the Holocaust in two speeches in Austria in 1989. He was arrested when he re-entered the country, where it is a crime to deny the Holocaust, last November, and had been in custody since.
During his seven-hour trial yesterday Irving sought to convince the jury that he had changed his mind and now acknowledged the murder of six million Jews by the Nazis.
“I made a mistake when I said there were no gas chambers at Auschwitz,” he told the court.
But the judge and jury were unswayed. One hundred and fifty-eight people have been convicted of Holocaust denial in Austria between 1999 and 2004, but only a handful other than Irving have been imprisoned. ...
The verdict came amid a furious debate in Europe over freedom of expression, with many defending the media’s right to publish cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad. The Arabic television station al-Jazeera broadcast the verdict to its Islamic audience.
Nick Griffin, the leader of the British National Party, was recently acquitted of making speeches inciting racial hatred. Abu Hamza, the radical Islamic cleric, was sentenced last week to seven years in prison for inciting racial hatred and soliciting murder.
In Britain there was alarm at the sentence. “Anyone who denies the Holocaust is off their rocker,” Gerald Howarth, Tory MP for Aldershot, said. “But to send a man to prison for three years for something that he said sixteen years ago and has since changed his view -- what are we coming to?”
Anthony Beevor, the military historian, said: “However nauseating, these people should be confronted in debate rather than chucked into jail and turned into martyrs.”
The verdict will end for good the career of a man banned from a dozen countries from Canada to South Africa for belittling the murder of the Jews and glorifying Hitler.
In 2000 Irving was forced into bankruptcy when he unsuccessfully sued Deborah Lipstadt, an American academic who had called him a Holocaust denier. He was ordered to pay £3 million in legal costs and had to sell his Mayfair home.
She said yesterday: “He should have been met by the sound of one hand clapping. The one thing he deserves, he really deserves, is obscurity.


The Guardian, February 5, 2000

This is how [David Irving] approaches the entire topic. He dismisses the evidence of the witnesses' own eyes: whether Jew or Nazi, they made it all up. He sets a standard of proof for his enemies which no human event could ever fully satisfy. And this is a challenge not only to Deborah Lipstadt. ... If Irving is able to dismiss the testimony of tens of thousands of witnesses, where does that leave history? If we can't know this, how can we know that Napoleon fought at Waterloo or that Henry VIII had six wives? How can we know anything? [emphasis added]



David John Cawdell Irving (born March 24, 1938) describes himself as a self-taught historian who, from the late-1960s to the mid-1980s, was a leading British author on World War II. Author of controversial works such as Hitler’s War and The Destruction of Dresden, Irving is also one of the most accomplished and successful proponents of Holocaust denial. In the mid-1980s, he started openly associating with Neo-Nazi and extremist groups, and his reputation began to wane. In the late 1990s, he sued the prominent Holocaust historian Deborah Lipstadt for listing him as a Holocaust denier in her book Denying the Holocaust. After a much publicized trial, Irving lost the case and was found to be a Holocaust denier by the court.
Among Holocaust deniers, Irving is perhaps the only one who for some time managed to maintain the reputation of a serious, if controversial, historian. Irving is considered an icon by many in the Holocaust denial camp, but since the Lipstadt trial verdict, he has fought an increasingly isolated battle, and has been barred from entering many countries.


Jane Christensen

Holocaust Denial supporting professor has 9/11 truth course that mixes good evidence and hoaxes, recommends Nazi news sources as reliable materials

Professor Christensen passed away in November, 2005.


Professor Christensen is an open supporter of Holocaust Denial who is teaching a course called 911: the road to tyranny. The texts that she is using in her "course" include Alex Jones, In Plane Site and the Institute for Historical Review (an organization dedicated to denying the Holocaust), perhaps the first and last time that these liars will ever be used as sources for a university education. Hopefully, she is an agent provocateur - since it's hard to believe that anyone with tenure could be so stupid.

I had a short dialogue with this professor inquiring about her use of inaccurate sources regarding the 9/11 cover-up and was quite shocked at her response -- she has vitriol that makes people who are convinced that 9/11 was an inside job want to believe the official story. I can only imagine what impact she will have on a broader public audience.


From: "Christensen, Jane T" <JChristensen@WESNet.ncwc.edu>
To: 'Mark Robinowitz'
Subject: RE: best and worst evidence re: 9/11 complicity -- it's not a good idea to cite nazis while promoting a mix of real and fake evidence
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:31:56 -0500

Dear Mark,
Thanks for writing. I rather think the "Holocaust" denial sites have a
great deal of credibility since the "Holocaust" was the greatest hoax of all.


comments about her racism are also at

Jane Christensen: Holocaust Denial and 9/11 Investigation - March 17, 2005


Her shoddy efforts attracted notice from a right-wing, neo-conservative publication:

Academic Insanity at North Carolina Wesleylan
By Jon Sanders
FrontPageMagazine.com | April 18, 2005


This article discusses an "academic" course from a professor who supports Holocaust Denial -- which mixes up sites like Ruppert's with rense.com, infowars.com, and even worse stuff (like the Institute for Historical Review - a notorious nazi apologist organization).


From: Victoria Ashley
Subject: Fwd: [911truthalliance] N.C. Wesleyan Professor's Web Site, Course Draw Criticism
To: Mark

Have you seen this latest one? The work of AP . . .

If you ask me this is extremely transparent attempt to associate the key names in here to scare the left from 9/11 truth.

9/11 truth - antisemitism - nutcase Christensen - hardcore Horowitz (dragging behind her like clanging cans) - the spectre of recently set-up Ward Churchill . . . expletives flying for no reason, 'campus crackdowns' on the left . . . 9/11 truth . . .


N.C. Wesleyan Professor's Web Site, Course Draw
POSTED: 5:39 pm EDT April 25, 2005

RALEIGH, N.C. -- The classroom where North Carolina Wesleyan College's only political science professor is teaching a course titled "9/11: The Road to Tyranny" has become the latest battlefront in the ongoing campus culture war.

On Tuesday, the six students enrolled in the elective course taught by Jane T. Christensen were to attend the course's final session: "Police State USA (Where Do We Go From Here?)"

Christensen's course has conservatives raging against campuses loaded with unaccountable liberals. The president of N.C. Wesleyan, a school of 1,800 students 50 miles east of Raleigh in Rocky Mount, is defending her right to academic freedom.

"Slander and anti-Semitism are permitted by a bigot posing as a scholar," Mike Adams, a criminal justice professor at the University of North Carolina at Wilmington, wrote in an online critique on Frontpagemag.com.

Adams is a frequent critic of academic liberalism; Frontpagemag.com is a Web site headed by David Horowitz, a one-time liberal campus activist turned conservative critic.

One text required in Christensen's 9/11 course holds that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States were orchestrated and carried out by U.S. government elites. The course teaches that the official story about Sept. 11 is the result of "government involvement in the cover-up."

The attacks were used by neo-conservatives in the Bush administration, acting on behalf of pro-Israel Zionists, as "a catalyst for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq as well as the attack on civil liberties in the United States," according to the course's syllabus.

"I teach the truth about 9/11 in all of my courses," said Christensen, who also teaches classes on research methods and the American political system.

Other professors have encountered criticism for voicing alternative views of the Sept. 11 attacks.

University of Colorado ethnic studies professor Ward Churchill came under scrutiny after writing that workers in the World Trade Center were the equivalent of "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who ensured the smooth running of the Nazi system. Churchill said his essay referred to "technocrats" who participate in what he calls repressive American policies around the world. Churchill also spoke of the "gallant sacrifices" of the "combat teams" that struck America.

And North Carolina has seen battles over the academic community's response to Sept. 11, as when three incoming freshmen sued the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill over a summer reading assignment of a book that examined Muslim beliefs.

In an interview Monday with The Associated Press, Christensen - a tenured professor with 15 years at N.C. Wesleyan - defended her course.

"This is a war by the extreme right wing motivated by the Zionists to quash academic freedom on campus," she said.

Students will "never find anything that resembles the truth about 9/11 or the war in Iraq from the mainstream media," she added.

Christensen urged an interviewer to investigate how many Iraqis have been killed since the U.S. invasion two years ago, whether several of the suicide hijackers on 9/11 have since been spotted alive, and whether Israel is planning targeted killings of opponents in the United States.

"That's a hell of a lot more interesting than my (expletive) Web site," she said.

Christensen's page on the N.C. Wesleyan Web site shows a photo of black-clad people holding automatic weapons and the statement: "Fighting the New World Order."

The site includes links to founding documents of American democracy - like the Declaration of Independence and selected Federalist Papers - as well as to anti-war, anti-Bush, anti-Israel and pro-Palestine groups.

Ian Newbould, N.C. Wesleyan's president, defended Christensen in an interview. "We don't tell professors what to think. We don't tell professors what to teach. The Eastern European Communist regimes, or Saddam Hussein for that matter, that's what they did," Newbould said Monday. "What makes America great is we don't do that. I've often used a quotation that they say comes from Voltaire, `I may disagree with what you say but I'll fight to your death your right to say it.'"

A year ago, Newbould participated in a panel discussion at a convention of independent college administrators about whether college presidents should express personal opinions on controversial national issues. He said presidents should stay in the background, while providing opportunities for campus discussion.

N.C. Wesleyan is a liberal arts college affiliated with the United Methodists.

Newbould said Monday the school is considering applicants for a second political science professorship - a hiring decision he said is independent of any controversy over Christensen.

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Idaho Observer


From the April 2007 Idaho Observer:
Rules of evidence should evenly apply

[a deceptive, nasty article pretending there is any sanity to Holocaust denial - one particulary example is:

Were there any autopsies performed on the corpses at the concentration camps after WWII? Yes. The highly-acclaimed pathologist Dr. Charles Larson was assigned the task of overseeing the performance of autopsies on the corpses found at Nazi concentration camps by the Judge Advocate General’s Office. After overseeing thousands of autopsies he concluded that: "Not one case of death by poison gas was found."

In reality, the bodies of most of the victims who were massacred by cyanide gas or carbon monoxide from motor engines were incinerated in crematoria (part of an effort to hide the evidence of the crimes). The camps liberated by the US troops in western Germany were concentration camps where most of the deaths were from disease and starvation - the poison gas utilizing extermination centers were in Poland (with the relatively small exception of the murder centers in mental hospitals in the late 1930s, but these victims were not generally Jewish, although the leaders of this criminal massacre later helped set up the death camps in Poland).


Ernst Zundel


who is Ernst Zundel? explores why he was evicted from the United States: lying to immigration authorities is a good way to get expelled from any country, without regard of political proclivities.


large amount of background material on Herr Zundel


Ernst Christof Friedrich Zündel (born April 24, 1939 in Bad Wildbad) is a German Holocaust denier and pamphleteer who was jailed several times for publishing hate literature. In 1977, Zündel founded a small press publishing house called Samisdat Publishers which issued such pamphlets as The Hitler We Loved and Why and Did Six Million Really Die?, both prominent documents of the so-called Holocaust Revisionism movement. For many years Zündel made his views known from his home in Canada and in 2005, he was deported back to his native Germany and detained in Mannheim prison awaiting trial for Holocaust denial.

Zundel's website contains some (relatively?) accurate information on 9/11 complicity that some well-meaning 9/11 truth activists have linked to. These individuals were merely lured by the bait on the Zundel site, and did not look closer to see that it is a Nazi propaganda campaign.



Zündel doesn't believe his own propaganda, Crown lawyer says
Staff Reporter

THE government lawyer in Ernst Zündel's deportation case said he doesn't think the notorious Holocaust denier really believes his own propaganda.

"I cross-examined Zündel for five days. In my view, he does not believe the Holocaust did not happen. He's far more intelligent than that. He's doing it because he hates Jewish people and made a great deal of money," Donald MacIntosh, the lead Crown prosecutor, told a McGill University audience recently.

Zündel profited handsomely from the publication of hate literature that was distributed around the world, MacIntosh said in a lecture on the case at McGill's law faculty, part of the Holocaust Education Series, sponsored by the Montreal Holocaust Memorial Centre.



Hutton Gibson: father of actor Mel Gibson


Claim: Actor Mel Gibson's father dismisses historical accounts of the Holocaust as impossible and denies that the September 11 terrorist attacks were perpetrated by Al Qaeda hijackers.
Status: True.



Eric Hufschmid: Painful Questions & Deceptions

Hufschmid is a Holocaust denier, and proud of it. In a January 6, 2006 essay, he wrote, “People who question the official story of the Holocaust are not Holocaust Deniers. Rather, they are Holocaust Truth Seekers, or HoloHoax Exposers.” www.erichufschmid.net/Separating_truth_from_lies.htm

Mr. Hufschmid also claims that the Apollo Moon landings were faked, that Flight 77 did not hit the Pentagon, and is widely considered an embarrassment among the reality-based parts of the 9/11 truth movement. Hufschmid's article is one of the least informed rants in favor of Holocaust Denial available anywhere, and promotes the cause of Herr Zundel.


Rense.com also promotes the cause of Mr. Zundel with prominent links on the home page.

In February 2006, Rense published some Nazi propaganda designed to smear the peace movement. Written by long term Holocaust denier Robert Faurisson, it tries to persuade the naive and the uninformed that if they oppose Israeli military policies and/or the threatened US war on Iran, that they should embrace Holocaust denial.

The Fight For Historical Factualism
By Robert Faurisson



A site that is often good (it never fell for the "no plane at Pentagon" hoax) but also has supported the cause of neo-Nazi Ernst Zundel. A kind interpretation would be that this site is so angry at Israeli genocide of the Palestinians that they fail to understand the reality of the Nazi holocaust.

Holocaust Survivor Memoir Exposed As Total Fraud (an article from rense.com - which also promotes Zundel)
Zundel: His Freedom Is Our Freedom
German Free Speech Supporters Protest For Zundel
Ernst Zundel denied basic rights to fairness and justice
Letters In Response To The Ernst Zundel Deportation


John Kaminski - America's Autopsy Report

A websearch on "Kaminski Zundel" will bring up hundreds of links to his writings praising neo-Nazi Holocaust denier Ernst Zundel



A site that was an early participant in 9/11 truth movement but devolved into promoting a variation of the "no plane" at Pentagon and the bizarre claims that there are no natural limits to petroleum production. Its webmaster prefers the term "Holocaust Revisionism" to "Denial" - and admits that perhaps 1 to 3 million Jewish people were killed by the Nazis. However, that requires one to still deny much of the Holocaust, although it is less overtly offensive than claiming that almost no one was killed.

Jerry Russell wrote:

The Holocaust -- lots of references at http://www.911-strike.com/holocaust-dialectic.htm; several lines of demographic proofs of conspiracy at http://www.ety.com/tell/books/jgjewstats/jgstattoc.htm


This "ety" website praised by Jerry Russell (911-strike) is really obscene.
Denying gas chambers is about as obnoxious as denying depleted uranium in Iraq, the Pol Pot genocide, the Armenian genocide by the Turks (an inspiration for Hitler's Holocaust), and countless other atrocities.



http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=3747 as retrieved on Nov 6, 2006 10:00:18 GMT.
G o o g l e's cache is the snapshot that we took of the page as we crawled the web.

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The Liberation of the Camps
It is tantamount to virtual heresy to question the 'Holocaust' today. But did the extermination of 6 million people really happen